Dave Scatchard Died on the Ice, Met God, and Had to Choose to Come Back

I had a terrible fifth concussion that nearly ended my life.

I was unconscious on the ice for nine minutes.

I had a near-death experience.

I saw God and I chose to come back to this world.

And when I did, I almost instantly regretted it, meaning I was

in so much pain it would have been easier just to check out.

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You know who we got on today?

I do.

I'm excited because the person we're bringing on is not

only a notable person in our industry, peak performance coaching, had a

very remarkable career in the NHL.

He's a friend of mine here in the Valley so I want to bring

on our guest, Dave Scatchard.

"Skatch"… I know we've got different names.

Everybody calls me "Skatch".

It's okay.

And we met actually on a golf course face to face.

But I want to hear from you with your version.

What's your story?

Like my story, my personal…?

Whatever you want to start with!

I was a small town kid from Canada.

My dad was a coal miner.

We had 6000 people in my town of Hinton, Alberta.

I had these crazy dreams of playing in the NHL, and there was nothing

to do because everything was frozen.

So we learned how to skate, and we'd skate on the ponds and

we'd skate on the outdoor rinks.

And I became obsessed with it.

And we had the Edmonton Oilers to watch.

So they had Mark Messier and Wayne Gretzky, and they were these young, high

flying teams that were new to the NHL.

And I was a kid that just started watching hockey, and my dad never played.

Like I said, he worked in the coal mines and he was a PE teacher before that.

One brother, one sister.

But I had this obsession with trying to figure out how I could make it to the NHL

and nobody should have really found me.

We played Single A hockey.

We had one team, there was no tryout.

Everybody made the team, and to go to the places that I ended up going

later in my life and my career and hanging out with the people and the

rock stars and the movie stars and doing all these incredible adventures.

I literally pinch myself sometimes and I'm like how did that happen?

Like really?

And towards the end of my career, we'll get to that later.

But I had a terrible fifth concussion that nearly ended my life.

I was unconscious on the ice for nine minutes.

I had a near-death experience.

I saw God and I chose to come back to this world.

And when I did, I almost instantly regretted it, meaning I was in so much

pain and my brain was just so broken that I couldn't speak properly, I couldn't

walk properly, I couldn't exercise, I was in so much pain with these migraines

that there was a time where I, I hate to even say the words, but it would

have been easier just to check out.

So I've had these weird low contrast to these high, massive, insane,

spectacular events to back down into the tunnel of hell where I feel like

my world's ending and I've slowly had to learn how to rebuild this guy.

And what am I about now?

Because I don't have an identity.

I'm not a hockey player.

So what am I?

Who do I, what do I stand for?

What matters to me the most?

What message?

Why am I here?

I was at the Mayo Clinic for three years.

They couldn't help me.

They're like, sorry, you're just permanently disabled.

And I'm like, what are you talking about?

I'm 37 years old, 36 years old.

I got another 50 years to go, hopefully… I can't live like this.

And I started cursing at God and asking him why I'm being

punished and all of these things.

And I prayed for some miracles.

I ended up hiring a life coach because I had all these properties and all these

countries and I was I couldn't… I had a photographic memory when I was young

and I had no memory when I was like old.

So I was worried I was going to blow everything that I just

built this little mini empire.

And I hired a life coach and he ended up being a Tony Robbins coach.

But I didn't know Tony.

I didn't really do his stuff.

I think I did some stuff when I was a young kid on.

Yeah, we all did.

One of his tape decks tapes, but I did it

backwards in a lot of people.

And then he said, if you could get better, what's something that you'd like to do?

And I said, I'd love to help kids.

I love to help kids achieve their dreams and goals.

But also I'd like to help anybody who wants to get out of

this pain and this suffering.

And he goes, well, Tony Robbins has got this leadership program that I think

would be really incredible for you.

And it's got a lot of psychology and pattern interrupts and removing your

limiting beliefs and a lot of stuff that you probably have never really done.

And I went down there and it was so crazy for me that I had trouble being in the

room with all those people and lights and people jumping up and down and.

I call my wife the first day, and she's like "How's Tony?" And I found out

halfway through the day that Tony doesn't even do his own leadership program.

He has other people teaching for him.

So I painfully drove down to San Diego to get down there from Arizona,

which is like a 5 or 6 hour drive.

And I had to pull over to sleep twice because it was overwhelming for my brain.

And I finally get there, and then the guy doesn't even show up for his own event.

And I was like, so mad.

Anyways, the end of day one, I'm starting to like some things are

starting to light bulbs are going off and I'm starting to like question a few

things and I'm like, well, I'm here.

I might as well go all in and do all the stupid things, whatever.

And I had over the course of those three days, I had some

real serious breakthroughs.

And I had some messages from God that I was going to heal and that I was

going to go and help others, and I was going to go do all these other things.

But I had a lot of work to do and I wasn't being punished.

I was being trained.

Wow.

And that was a complete perspective shift for me,

where I'm like, " Trained for what?

What's coming for you?" And now, because of the contrast that I've

had in my life, these super highs and super lows, no matter where

somebody comes to me as a coach now, I can completely relate to them.

I know what that feels like when you're hopeless and you're desperate.

And I know that when it feels like when you're trying to get to the next

level, I know all of those feelings and those vibrations and those frequencies.

So yeah, I dove into it head first.

I was doing only private clients for a while, very successful with pro athletes.

And then I helped my first businessman.

But the principles that I was teaching my athletes actually

worked for him and his business.

And I had a little bit of a real estate background, and my head was getting

clear, and I was starting to think.

And we did a 1031 exchange and one of his big realty properties and saved him

a couple million in taxes and stuff.

And we flipped them the other way.

So he actually ended up with a million and a half dollars in his jeans

instead of being bankrupt again.

He went and told everyone else what I did, and then people were

banging on my door for five years.

Like I never marketed like one time.

And I was quite successful until Covid happened.

And then I felt like God talked to me again, saying that I can't

just keep this for the people that are paying me the big bucks.

I got to share it with the world.

Powerful man.

Yeah.

I left Robbins in oh one ish, 2000, 2001, and

that was that coaching model was being built right when I left.

So I knew the model that you went to when you told me about it.

We were building that whole thing.

I'm bummed that they didn't tell you about that Tony doesn't show up to the.

Yeah, I know, me too!

I think it was perfect, which it always is looking.

In hindsight, I find a lot of the things that might bother us or like this is

a bad luck or that wasn't a big deal.

But like when I got traded from Vancouver to New York, I went from this incredible

team to this team that was in bankruptcy, that the owner was in jail for fraud, and

like the team sucked and all these things.

And I'm like, why did I get stuck on the worst team in the NHL?

Years later, I got the most ice time.

I played the most.

I met my wife in New York City.

I was a leader and assistant captain on that team and let me develop

as a player, which would not have happened if I was in Vancouver.

We can all look back.

We all had that one person, maybe a boyfriend or girlfriend, and you're

like, oh, I thought she was the one.

And then like years later, you're like, thank goodness that didn't work out right.

I want to before you ask a question, I want to make

sure that you explain this because I didn't understand it fully.

When you and I met, people would say, oh, yeah, you know what

happened to Scatch end of his career?

He was going through a lot of stuff.

And when I hear that, I'm like, oh, you mean like mental health?

Like he was just like, was he depressed?

And that's the first thought I had was mental health.

And then I did my homework and I researched it and I read up on you.

And I got to know who you were.

And then when he's talking about his brain, he's not talking about his mental

health, like because of the concussions and everything that was happening,

you're literally… your speech.

Yeah.

Your body, your physiology.

So I want people to understand that it wasn't just mental health

that was the byproduct of what was happening physically, right?

Correct.

But imagine like you feel like you're like a Lamborghini or Ferrari and

you're ripping down the freeway and everything's going great.

And then you have this terrible accident and you're on the side of the road and you

have all these gears and you used to be able to use them and then nothing works.

Ignition's not even starting.

And you're just sitting there and everything's going.

Whizzing by you and nobody's helping you… and you're like,

what the f***, what's going on?

And that's how it felt to me.

And when they did the MRI on my brain, because I was still trying to come back,

like somehow possible the way my body was, but my brain's like, oh, we're okay.

Let's just go get in there.

And then they have six spots on my brain that are like dark with

bleeding and micro-hemorrhaging.

And they're like, dude, these should not be in your brain.

it should be gray.

It should not be black, in these spots.

So they're like, you've got some serious micro-hemmorhaging in your brain.

And, I know this is a side note, but like concussions are the worst when

they're glancing blows because the brain actually screw drives itself into

the front of the skull or the side of the skull and actually tears pieces

as opposed to bumping up against it.

Those head on collisions are actually not bad.

You can recover from those.

But the shearing causes like the brain damage.

So I had a lot of those.

It wasn't from fighting.

I had around 100 fights over my career, but it was from these dirty

or glancing blows where I didn't see somebody or an elbow or a dirty hit.

And it took me almost four years to come out of the darkness that I was in.

I could sit here and talk about the contrast, but I feel like I want

to talk about some of the things that helped get me out of that.

That's what we want to hear about.

Yeah, that's what I was going to ask about.

I'm thinking yeah, of two friends that I have specifically who have crippling

repeat migraines over and over.

And so I'm just sitting here thinking, I wonder what Dave's experience

was in the healing process and what can I pass on potentially to them?

So talk a little bit about some of the things that you tried experimenting with.

I'm sure you went down the rabbit hole as deep as it possibly goes.

I literally traveled around the world and I

have to give Tony a lot of credit.

Tony really introduced me to a lot of the most incredible people dressing

different monks, shamans, energy workers, coaches, speakers, eaters, healers.

And he would be like, Dave, you should meet and I would go and I'd meet and

I'd just stroke checks and I'm like, all right because what am I going to

do if I just keep stuck in this state?

I have to, and this is going to lead us to where we're going to go later…

but I had to find a different frequency because the frequency that I was

vibrating at had no healing energy in it.

It had no alignment, I was misaligned, I was lost my identity.

I had no purpose.

The frequency that I was vibrating at would have never healed.

And when I did have one of my first miracles, I removed all this armor.

Okay, because I would walk around 3 or 4 years later feeling like

I'm going to get smoked again.

From like life, the car is going to hit me or something.

Always bracing for impact.

I always felt like I was like hyper- I don't

know if that's hypertension.

I don't know what it is, but I always felt like something.

It was just- I believe that when the accident happened, the brain went

from oh, let's thrive to whoa, let's survive and let's keep you alive.

Even if it's barely alive, we're going to keep your heart beating.

You're going to keep you breathing.

we're probably not going to do a bunch of stuff right now.

And I'm like a young man and I said, something's got to shift.

And I started doing removing this armor and like removing this protection that I

had built around myself over my career.

And this is a next level advanced, it's not really a two-minute conversation,

but what I teach is, if you look at how many times you've been imprinted

on from a parent, from a coach, from a teacher, from a pastor, from

"A good boy would never do that".

"Oh, geez, I didn't know.

I'm just being a kid," "Hey!

Don't do that.

That's rude." "Oh, okay.

Sorry." And you start to turn off all these pieces of yourself, "Oh, I put

my heart out there and a girl broke it.

I'm never going to do that.

I'm going to keep a little bit for me just in case because I almost ended me.

It broke my heart."

So people do this constantly over the course of time, and it stacks up all

these layers and all these… it's almost like they become like a cellophane self.

It's like another version of themselves that they put out there for the world,

but the real self is still protecting itself… which isn't totally authentic.

It becomes more inauthentic the more layers of armor that

you put around yourself.

The problem with that for me is I had SO many layers.

I moved away from home when I was just 15, turning 16, I was scared,

I was homesick, I was severely bullied at school when I was a kid.

The first time my dad spanked me, it was just jarring because my idol, my dad, was

hurting me, and I couldn't believe it.

And it was for something that I didn't even do, which was like another story.

You know, I thought I was lying.

You know what I mean?

So I'm like, well, if he started making me not this pure, authentic, aligned kid that

like, I literally spoke to God all the time when I was a little boy and stuff.

And had an invisible friend and stuff.

I remember one time my dad was like, "What are you doing? That's stupid.

Stop doing that." And I remember saying and who knows what that was.

But it was real to me as a kid.

And I turned that off and I'm like, "hey, I'm… His name is Simon. I'm

like, Simon, we can't be friends anymore. My dad's very mad" and I

don't and my dad was tough on me.

He was like an army dad, he was a coal miner.

He was old school.

He was fair for the most part.

But there was some stuff that was like looking back on, it messed me up a little.

So anyways the point being, I had all this armor on and what if all of the

blessings, all the healing, all the love, all the abundance, everything is trying.

It's trying to get to me?

But I have so much protecting me that it can't get to me.

And I started ripping off all this armor like physically.

Get off me!

And I'm like ripping these pieces off.

And I could literally feel chunks of things, beliefs, values, worries, posed

truths, or how to be falling to the ground and the whole rest of the class is done.

This is at leadership.

Yeah, the whole rest of the class is done and I'm in the back and

I'm having a frickin' meltdown.

I'm crying.

I got snot bubbles everywhere.

The girl trainer comes over.

She's "Okay, I'm going to stay with you. But you got to stay in this

thing." And I'm in my own world.

When I play with the Islanders, we went down to ground zero after 9/11 and we

didn't know what we were walking into.

Like it was like a day or two after 9/11.

And we were going there to support our New York firemen or whatever, and we

got a bus that pulls up and it was so fresh that these guys hadn't slept.

They're walking over this rubble.

It's so hot, it starts to melt the bottom of my soles, like there's

shit burning underneath there.

And these guys like their masks are off now, half these guys have died

from cancer and stuff like nowadays.

And we're there to try to cheer them up.

And we walk into this thing and all of us are like, whoa, there's not one word

we can say to these guys right now.

They are ghosts.

Like their bodies are all dead underneath this building.

They're trying to find bodies.

It's impossible.

Like they barely found anybody.

And everybody was just crushed.

But when I was removing that armor, it was like this rubble was just stacking

up all around me, and I. And I saw this light, the same light that I

saw during my near-death experience.

And I reached down and I moved some of this armor that I had removed, like the

rubble, and I picked up this little boy, this little light, this little David.

And it was me as like a pure vessel, a pure version of myself.

I said "man, I'm so sorry I had to bury you under all that stuff.

But I don't know if you could have gone and done what we just did the last 20

something years, fighting all these monsters and doing all this stuff.

But I go, we're retired now.

It's time that we get back on track." And I said "I'm scared, but you're going to be

the leader now because you're the truth.

You're the love your light." And it was terrifying because

to have that much vulnerability after being like that hard or.

For so long, too.

For so long, it's so uncomfortable.

And I was so scared that I was going to get crushed by life

because I had no armor on.

It was the first time that I got back to my authentic self, and instantaneously,

the second I locked that into place, I was just like washed and cleansed completely.

And some of the pressure behind my right eyeball just released.

Wow.

And this whole side of my face starts to go purple and

it's draining down my neck like this.

And the trainer is freaking out.

She thinks I'm having an aneurysm.

She's like, "call 911".

yeah.

And she's "Are you okay?" I'm like, "Yeah, I go something just let go.

I don't even know what it was, but and I go, but it feels amazing." This side was

still locked, but this side was starting to let go and all this massive migraine.

Like I felt like an ice pick behind my eye for three years.

It starts to let go.

And I'm like, "oh, wow!" And I just started crying.

I go down on my knees and I'm just so grateful.

And I'm like, man, can we do this?

Can we go into the world like this now?

Because it's really vulnerable.

But the craziest part is I never had more success, happiness, love, money,

just falling into my lap without doing anything other than staying

authentically aligned and tuning in to whatever I was feeling and sharing that.

And I'd share these stories with people and then they, it would

happen to them while I'm sharing it.

And because they see me being able to drop my guard, it gives them permission

to go ahead and do the same thing.

Bro.

Yeah, thank you for sharing that, man.

That's one of 20 of these things.

And it's I don't always share them because they take a while to tell.

But also I think they're so impactful that it's a crime not to.

And I think that vulnerability is a superpower,"

I do believe that it's not just some Pollyanna reframe.

The more vulnerable I've been with people, the better rapport I have, the more trust,

Yeah.

We sit there and talk about life and the issues

that we talk about as men.

How do you harness that now?

So that's something that happened.

It's a life experience.

You take that superpower and you bring it into the coaching.

Is that something that's just part of what you do as part your strategy?

When you work with people 1 to 1?

That's not easy stuff, man.

Yeah.

And what's crazy is my favorites are up and coming athletes,

entrepreneurs, entertainers.

I love working with those people because they're self-driven and self-motivated.

But because of my story, I find a lot of like really injured, broken,

damaged people coming into my world, which I still have a calling to help.

And some of my coaches are like, bro, stick with your favorite clients, stick

with your ideal client avatar, and I'm like, I know, but I got 87 of these

people just sitting there going "Can you help me, please?" You know what I mean?

So I've created some online programs and different things where I can

direct them into that are are affordable and can get the results.

But also, whenever I have these in-person masterminds at my home, I've got a

beautiful home here in Paradise Valley.

It's like it's the change is like permanent and visible

and like life changing.

And even this morning I was talking to one of my clients and she

said, I helped her with something.

And I tried this new sort of philosophy that I've been working on.

We'll talk about that in a second.

But she goes, "those three days with you changed my life for the last 30 minutes

you just shared with me took it up like another 2 or 3 levels." And I said,

it's like when I'm downloading and when I'm like tuned in with my frequency, I

will speak on stage at my own events for hours with three bullet points or four

bullet points, and I'll feel the room.

I'll read the room.

I'll do interventions with people.

And I just know what they need at that time, whether it's a story or

a system or a lesson or whatever.

But also what I'm realizing is that when people get in my

frequency and I'm tuned in, right?

If I'm lazy and I'm not doing my work, I don't, I vibrate much lower.

But if I'm tuned in at my higher frequency, I can actually lift people

up a level or two where they can start to feel and see things differently

than they've ever seen them before.

And it's something I'm really playing with, like currently today.

I started to create a new ten module meditation course based

on frequencies and harmonics.

And literally I had the whole outline before I even came here today, but

it was like gifted to me and I was just like writing as fast as I can.

This has happened to me so many times.

So even when I feel like, okay, I'm going to slow down the coaching or I'm going to

enjoy life or I'm going to do whatever, God's like, "Hey, buddy, we need you.

You're gonna, you're gonna always be hungry and feel like you're not doing

enough and you're always gonna be needed." So you're not, I will never retire.

but I will also play with it and try different things.

Live events, online programs, one on one coaching, group coaching.

And I'm playing around trying to figure out the perfect mix to help

the most people, but also for me to have fun and enjoy doing it.

But it can be all consuming, as you know.

When

One thing that I struggle with and I relate to your story a ton,

and I don't want to hog the mic, but I have very similar experiences actually.

Yeah.

Is that joy that you get from being tuned in like that?

And then an even larger joy, I bet in being able to help

somebody else find that.

Yeah.

That to me becomes a high and it's like a drug and it's addicting.

Yeah.

And I want to stay there.

Yeah.

And when I'm not there, something feels wrong and something feels off.

And I don't want to be there.

Yes.

And it's almost like a little bit of bipolar in a way, because

you're experiencing, at least in my experience, I'm at the highest of high.

Yeah.

I'm doing my life's purpose right now.

This moment is exactly where I'm supposed to be.

The impact is massive.

Yes.

And then I come way down and I'm like, what am I doing the dishes for?

Or whatever.

Some annoying thing is that's going on some disruption.

It's I'm, I shouldn't be here and I struggle with ping-ponging back and forth.

So my question becomes, is that a normal experience in your mind?

And how do you accept that up and down nature of it?

So there's three things.

So number one, if you're called, you will always be hungry.

You won't ever feel comfortable…

Yep.

… Dave Scatchard: because you're chosen.

Believe that 100%.

Thank God you're hungry.

Yep.

Because we need you, right?

Number two, there's this is actually Donny Epstein.

One of Tony's guys taught me this: there's energy poor, there's

energy neutral, there's energy rich, and energy super rich.

If I'm energy neutral, I can pull a poor guy up like half a step.

If I'm energy rich, I can pull him up a full step.

If I'm super rich, I can pull them up two steps just by being in my field.

I've asked my one on one clients, you could hire anybody you could.

For what I charge, you could hire Tony, you could hire whatever you

not Tony, but a lot of people.

I'm not cheap, but I'm good.

And I'm I believe that I'm one of the best.

And it's like, why do people not- they don't do one year and then

they're flying and they keep hiring me back and they're like, you're the

best investment that I've ever made.

And they're like, every single time that I'm in your energy, things open up.

I get an idea or you give me a concept or I just feel good in your energy.

but like, as a marketer, how do I sell that?

But if somebody comes to an event, they're like, I'm all in.

What are you doing?

I'm all in.

And I continually surveyed my clients and been like, what was it?

Was it this?

Was it the system?

Was it this?

And they're like, no, it's like the energy and energy, the group, the energy, the

vibe, which brings us to current day.

Okay.

I have been hooked in just this last week, looking and dissecting on some of my most

successful case studies of all my clients.

We took one client from $650,000 to $6.5 million in 4 years.

Well, what did we do with him?

And a lot of it was trying to get more authentic, trying to

remove some of the armor and the mask that are blocking the flow.

But also to raise this frequency in different ways where… And I do this

example at one of my events… So I'll crouch down behind a table and I'll

say, "what do you think that somebody with this level of frequency can see?"

" Well, I can see the leg of the table or the curtain or whatever is there,"

but can they see watch or the phone or the water or anything on top of that?

No.

But I can coach them and be like, oh, you guys do this.

And they're like, dude, I don't even see that.

What are you talking.

Are you talking about?

"What are you talking about? Frequency or harmonics or

vibration? I don't get it." So it's as I can raise their level, they start to see

all these things and be like, Holy smokes, I see what you're talking about now.

I can feel it.

So how do you package that?

As a coach?

And I started really thinking, what if it wasn't all the systems and we talked about

this just a second ago, but I could give you the winning blueprint to your business

or your life or your health or your love.

Yeah, but whatever.

I take the book, but I don't have the frequency.

You can't even process what's in there because

your frequency is so low.

But what if I raise your frequency, raise your vibration, get you tuned in, get

your antenna up where you're tuning into the energetic field and you're getting

downloads, you're getting data, you're able to start mapping things out and

seeing things from a different level?

And I go, "Hey, check this out."

Now I'm ready.

Yeah, I see things completely different.

Thank you.

It's a completely different vibration.

So we've all had clients that didn't do anything with us.

And you're like, dude, I laid it out on a blueprint.

Like I wrote a book.

a child could follow this.

But for that person where they're at in this point of their life, it's

not about the system in any way.

It's completely about the frequency and the vibrational

field that they're tuning into.

That's such a smaller one that can't access anything in here.

So why would we start with this, which most of us do?

Ram it down people's throats.

"Hey, this is the winning blueprint." We've all bought the programs online,

and we either don't finish them or we don't use them, or they don't work.

It's not the programs.

Programs are actually pretty good, some of them.

It's us.

So what if my job is nothing more than to pay attention and tune

in my frequency every single day?

Mine started at 4:00 this morning, and today I took it to another level.

I literally made a, like a checklist of all of the things that I feel like

absolutely tuned me up to no other.

There's a workout in there, there's hydration in there.

There's some supplements in there.

There's meditation, there's visualization, there's gratitude.

It took me a couple hours to do this today, but I had a couple

showings on my home the other day, and I've been trying to sell this

big 10,000 foot house for a while.

And the markets have been a little weird lately and stuff.

And I'm like, you know what?

I'm leaving nothing to chance.

If I just show up and hope I get the offer or whatever it's 50/50.

What if I make my field so big that I'm just humming, right?

So I do this.

The second that I'm done, I check the last box of the day.

Okay.

Good job.

And it was authentic.

I wasn't rushing through it.

I was really sitting in it.

I was visualizing, I read affirmations about selling my house, 50 of them.

The buyer is so excited to get into my beautiful home and I'm

so excited to sell it to them.

It's a win-win transaction.

The second that I get done that… ring.

" "Hey, Skatch, we got an offer." I'm not joking.

I'm not joking.

True story.

I could show you the text message.

I believe you.

So why do we run around trying to do all these other things?

When actually, what if we create our own field?

What if we're co-creators in our life, or we are the creator of our life, right?

Us and God or God lives in us, or if we're a child of God or whatever you

believe, it doesn't matter universe, whatever words you want to use.

But what if we can broadcast this world in and every single thing

that comes into our field is because of us, and it's a reflection of

what's going on inside of us?

And what if we have an angry person that keeps showing up?

This asshole… well, maybe there's a part of me that needs to express

my anger because I'm Mr. Good Guy or nice guy all the time and stuff.

And that's a piece of me.

That's a color of my rainbow.

That's a complete piece of my spectrum.

So why on earth would I mute that and say, "well, a good boy would never be mean.

I've never snap or be frustrated or be an asshole." Sometimes I want to be one.

I don't have to take it out on somebody, but I could go scream or

hit a punching bag or rage a little bit and get it out of my system.

And then I'm balanced, and then I'm tuned in again and "I'm like,

all right, send me some data.

What are we doing today?

What's the most important?

Where's the money at?

Where's the client at?

Who needs help?" "Where do I need to show up at?" And if I dial

myself in every day, there is no chance that I'm not going to win.

And I experimented this with this at the World Series of Poker this year.

I literally had days where I did absolutely nothing and

my results were mediocre.

And there were days when I did my whole routine and I cashed five

out of eight tournaments this year.

I seem to be luckier.

Yeah.

I seem to get the front row parking.

I seem to be in flow and glide 100% more when I'm like, purposely doing it.

But why don't we stay in it though?

That's my struggle.

Like when I get in flow.

I think most people don't realize when they're dipping or

building in a check balance type of deal.

Trust me.

Like I'm so high right now…

yeah.

That I'm going to be buzzing till my kid's hockey practice

is done at But there are times when I wouldn't do as heavy as I went today.

I would do some.

Yeah.

But then I need to reset after a couple

of coaching calls or something.

I'm like, oh man, okay, I got to reload.

And I would go through some of my processes and some of my energy

exercises and some of my meditations.

That reload part is the key part.

That is, I think you're right.

Because we can be at a high and then we have to do a

couple of things and then drain us.

And most of us, once we get drained, we're like, oh shit, I

got five other things I have to do, and we don't have that pause to.

100%.

Reload, re-energize.

Especially being givers.

You have people drinking from you like all the time.

All the time, and you don't want to say no to somebody.

At the end of the day, you're like, I got nothing left.

That's tough.

You're right.

And especially when you have cell phones and I mean, you got people you and I

have been sitting here for an hour.

How many texts do you think we all have if we turn our phones on?

I don't even want to know.

Countless.

And it's people that want something or need something.

They want our energy.

And that's what makes us want it more because we thrive off it.

But it's tough, man.

No, but to hear that you went through this, by the way,

that story is incredible.

But now you have a vision, right?

That visualization of it.

And now you can share that story with other people because people

are going to have their own visual of what it might be, right?

You can see us describing it.

He's got this armor, like I know what he means, but I wouldn't call mine armor.

It's something different visually, but you have that to

be able to give to someone else.

Because no matter what it is, everyone has an effing thing that they got to pull back

and say, "Quit being that cellophane self.

Be your authentic self.

Rise to a high level of frequency.

Stay in flow and see what happens." It's tough, but we keep

doing it, but we keep doing it.

It's almost like when you see the reward that

you want to do it every day.

And I literally was writing down, I play poker as a hobby, but

I'm pretty good at it and stuff.

So I've just been popping into the casino just recently, and I'm just tracking

based off of my vibrational level.

This week, for example, I think I had five wins and one loss.

The only loss that I had was the day where I skipped out on

a few things because I was busy.

Like mental note shouldn't have gone in that day.

But I wrote it down right?

And I wasn't all in and I didn't even really want to play.

I was just testing, testing it out.

Like scientifically.

Honestly, it sounds funny.

Yeah, when you're talking about that.

But it's man.

Looking back, can you think of hockey games where you're like.

100%?

Oh, I had a hat trick this day.

I was tuned in.

I played

I wrote about it in my book.

Yeah, "The Comeback: My Journey Through Heaven and Hell",

which you can get on Amazon.

Yeah, it's great.

In that book, I talk about two hat tricks.

I had two hat tricks in a month, and I felt like every time I was

on the ice, I was going to score.

And I was never a first line guy or the second line or power play.

Like I was like third line, fourth line guy, like for whatever reason.

I started off as fighting a lot, and then I worked into my skills and got

them better, but I never really got the breaks that some of the superstars did.

But two hat tricks for a guy like me, that's pretty great.

And I led the team in goals that year.

I had 27 goals NHL.

I was going to score every single game but me and this kid named

Jason Blake… he was an underdog.

He was the hardest working guy on the ice along with me, and we just pushed

each other and together our frequencies were just so much higher than the

rest of the team the whole year long.

Same year I had a bonus for 20 goals.

And this guy named Marius Tchaikovsky, he had a bonus for 35

goals and the team was terrible.

So we were playing great.

Him and I, but the rest of the team wasn't very good.

And he's like, hey, like me and you, we're gonna get our bonuses and we're

gonna go down to Miami and South Beach and we're just gonna go crazy.

But this is we're pushing each other.

You better get your bonus.

Otherwise we both have to get the bonus.

Otherwise we don't go,

Purpose!

All right.

And, man, all year long, we push each other.

This is the funniest story, I think, in the book.

I got my bonus.

I got my 20th and 21st with 3 or 4 games left to go.

So I got my job done and he needed two of the last game.

And I think we were playing the Philadelphia Flyers or something.

And we're out of playoffs.

We're not going to playoffs.

Yeah.

I think we even lose the game okay.

But he scored his second goal and he's got $150,000 bonus.

The team jumps on the ice like the Stanley Cup.

We're throwing our gloves.

Fans are like, what the hell?

What are you guys fired up about?

You lost the game, right?

But we made it fun and we made.

And we brought each other into each other's fields.

I hear stories of Michael Jordan, where he used to grab guys and bring them into

his field and challenge them, right?

And things like that.

So I've never really given it as much credit as right now,

today as how I'm feeling.

I showed up here today and I'm working on something.

It's really.

I could tell.

And I'm buzzing about it because it makes all the sense.

And I've had my clients testing it.

And look, let's break down your habits, your routines, what gets you fired up?

What are your best days you've ever had?

What are the things that you do?

What are you thinking?

How are you eating?

If I'm eating cleaner, if I'm drinking water, if I'm not drinking alcohol and

I'm just like focused and I'm locked in, I'm getting my rest and I'm doing

my stuff to, to raise my frequency.

Like I believe that like I'm unstoppable.

But I'm also like creating everything around me from a higher place.

Higher level people, higher level interviews, higher

level clients are finding me.

I'm getting offers on my home, like you name it, I'm bringing this in.

I'm in charge.

I'm not a passenger or victim in this world, and I think so many people give

themselves like that blame, or they give themselves a label that somebody

gave them, "oh, I'm A.D.D." Like Mayo Clinic: "Dave, you're permanently

disabled." If I were to pause life right there and said, these are

the smartest doctors in the world.

Yep, I'm tapping out.

They don't make mistake.

You wouldn't be here right now.

I'm so unlucky.

Yeah.

Oh, man.

I was cruising until…

Alright, so we're going to wrap up.

We're going to finish with a couple things you're working on.

Two questions, simple ones hopefully: the most badass disciplined guy.

You're like, hey, this guy plays a whole different level, surprises or not.

And the second question is toughest.

Like guy you wouldn't want to mess with because you I know you fought, man.

You throw it down.

Most disciplined?

I think Connor McDavid, from what I've heard, I don't know him personally,

but I just heard he's just a robot.

He is like an absolute… all he cares about is hockey.

He doesn't really let himself have fun unless he wins.

He's so serious.

He's calling the coach in the middle of summer, talking about power play,

breakouts and things he's like on all the time… Which is a little crazy, right?

Yeah.

But it's probably why he's one of the most

skilled players in the world.

Okay, I don't know him personally, but I've just heard his stories.

Yeah.

Most dedicated, guy ever as far as toughest.

I've got two versions of it.

One.

One guy didn't really want to fight was Ty Domi, and he's with the Toronto

Maple Leafs and stuff and Rangers and.

But I saw him get punched in the face by Bob Probert, who's probably the

toughest guy to ever play, or one of them.

And the thing happened to the guy.

So he takes five big shots and he's this little he's just stocky and he's

shorter, but he's got long arms and he's got great balance and he's strong.

But I'm like, well, if Probie can punch him ten times and nothing

happens, what am I gonna do?

[ Mike Lindstrom: laughing]

You know what I mean?

There were a couple times where it looked like we might fight and stuff, and I just.

I almost never said no to a fight.

I would fight almost anybody.

I almost I only remember saying no, really to Ty.

And I fought one of his other tough teammates, two seconds later.

But so Ty, I was like a little cautious because I'm like, well, if

I win, I don't really win because you don't want to fight me next game.

And but what's the point if I lose, I'm supposed to lose, but, whatever.

So it just didn't it didn't seem like a win any way I looked at it.

So Ty, I was always cautious.

But one of the toughest things I ever saw… a dear friend of mine,

and he ended up having a bad ending to the story, but he ended up having

a really bad concussions and had to retire from hockey… Adam Deadmarsh,

I played junior with him, he's from a town in British Columbia, near mine,

a few hours away in Trail… But he got drilled by this guy in, we were

playing Victoria, Canada in Junior and he's 17 or 18 and I'm like 16 or 17.

And he gets smoked and he's knocked out cold.

Refs get him off and he comes to the bench and the trainers and

he's got no gloves, no stick.

And he's obviously concussed.

And I go "Don't worry…" we call him piggy.

I go, "Don't worry Piggy, I got I'll go get him." I was gonna go fight

this guy to stick up for my teammate.

And He's "Okay. Just tell me when he's out." His eyes are holding Ross

and buggy and everything like this.

And I go to jump out to go fight this guy, to protect my teammate.

And I feel his hand on the back of my jersey throw me down into

the bench so my feet go up over.

I got my skates on and he jumps out onto the ice with no gloves, no helmet,

no stick and goes to center ice.

And he's like, "Let's go." The same guy that elbowed him and knocked him out.

It's oh no.

So he goes to fight him.

Piggy just beats the living crap out of him.

Guy's like on the ground, he's just pummeling him.

And Adam Deadmarsh piggy doesn't even go to the penalty box.

He just skates back to the bench and goes in the dressing room

because he knew his head was.

Done for the day.

Wow.

That was one of the toughest things I've ever seen.

He goes out there with no equipment and he's just let's go.

I've always said, man, my respect for hockey players

is… Not only are they badass athletes, but they do it on a freaking

piece of skate that's like that.

And these guys can fight and do all these things.

That's incredible.

All right.

We always end with things you're working on.

And by the way, what you're wearing, I know that So All-Star Coaching.

Tell us about what you're working on.

Yeah.

So we've got a couple live events dates to be determined, but I'm going to do one

out of my home and then one at a hotel.

And then my book, "The Comeback: My Journey Through Heaven and

Hell", you can find that on Amazon.

I do have a free plus shipping offer on my Instagram account @DaveScatchard.

So if people want to go on there, just got to pay for the shipping.

I'll pay for the book.

And I also do free challenges and stuff.

So follow me on Instagram and I'll show you guys when I'm doing some free

trainings and I don't hold back on those.

I try to give as much as I can.

And usually this is another thing is like when I've done the free

stuff, I did it not as a money maker originally, and I couldn't believe

the response because I gave and gave.

And then people were like, whoa, how do we keep going?

I didn't have an offer.

I swear to God.

I better figure one out.

I had 23,000 people come through during Covid

and I didn't even have an offer.

And I'm like, oh, okay, well, I just made up an offer and we had 100 people

or something sign up for whatever we did.

So it was pretty incredible.

And I was honestly doing it from the goodness of my heart.

And I feel in life when we do that, it comes back.

It just it does, never feel like you should if you're expecting it.

I don't think it comes.

I think if you do it, like truly out of the kindness of your heart, magic

happens and it comes back eventually.

And I've had on those free challenges.

I've had heavyweight champions of the world, boxing, that somehow found my ad

I had hockey players, I had Olympic gold medalists, and I would bring them out.

I'd be, has anybody done anything like at a really cool high level?

And it's "oh, I won a gold medal".

Yeah!

"I'm a world champion boxer." I'm like,

what are you on this challenge?

You know what I mean?

And I would do seven days.

It wasn't like a one day thing, but it was magical.

What the field and the universe created during one of the weirdest,

most divisive times in history.

So.

Well, it's great to talk to another servant leader and be

able to contribute and give like this.

Thank you for coming on, I appreciate it.

There's a lot to us.

Wow.

Scott.

It's I get emotional, man.

I don't know what it's about that damn chair.

I'm telling you, I start feeling people's stories.

It gets me going.

Yeah.

I can't wait to watch this one again.

Yeah.

Me too.

So thanks everybody for joining us on this episode.

I'm Mike Lindstrom, my man Scott Leese, and we'll catch you on the next!